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Nov 30 2009, 05:14 PM
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![]() Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 12-July 08 Member No.: 34,875 |
Judging from the below article from CBR, the Est. sales for Witchblade, which topped over 20k, suggests otherwise. Keep in mind, Witchblade has been around for 15 years and this is the first time in history (I think) the series cracked the 20k mark. I see no reason why it should revert back to the old Witchblade. Ron's doing an excellent job thus far telling his story the way it is now. The numbers prove that. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23873 Wha? You realize WB was the number one comic when it premeired right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Nov 30 2009, 05:16 PM
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![]() Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 12-July 08 Member No.: 34,875 |
Well, i like comics sales. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As for this month's increase of WB, that's obviously a good sign. And the success of Haunt and Image United gives me hope that readers will try other comics than Marvel/DC, like 10 years ago, and that the Marz/Sejic team-up will have the sales it deserves. Agreed. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Nov 30 2009, 07:16 PM
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![]() One of the Heard ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 9-February 09 Member No.: 42,768 |
Wha? You realize WB was the number one comic when it premeired right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) That was my reaction as well. I remember a time when if an Image book sold 100k copies it was considered bad. When the Deathmate mini started they were selling nearly a million copies and by the time it was finished it was down to 300k and that was considered a flop... |
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Dec 1 2009, 06:26 PM
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King of the Typo's. ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 10,516 Joined: 6-August 01 From: Lafollette, Tenn. Member No.: 9,373 |
All comicbook sale are down from the 90's. I heard Marvel sale where so bad that Disney actually bought Marvel.
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Dec 1 2009, 09:27 PM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,626 Joined: 2-June 04 Member No.: 21,130 |
That was my reaction as well. I remember a time when if an Image book sold 100k copies it was considered bad. When the Deathmate mini started they were selling nearly a million copies and by the time it was finished it was down to 300k and that was considered a flop... All comicbook sale are down from the 90's. I heard Marvel sale where so bad that Disney actually bought Marvel. Yeah, comics sales were at their top in the beginning of the 90's, and then, there has been a general decrease, which was experienced by all the publishers. But as we can see in the link, Image was again a top seller at the end of the decade. That's in the beginning of the 2000's that comics readers became suddendly conservatives, and decided to stop buying any books that wasn't Marvel or DC. And i really hope that this era is over... -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 1 2009, 09:43 PM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,626 Joined: 2-June 04 Member No.: 21,130 |
As for the poll, Gleason is logically ahead, but opinions are divided.
I see that the "girl" option has its fans. Dani, come back ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 1 2009, 11:31 PM
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![]() One of the Heard ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 9-February 09 Member No.: 42,768 |
Yeah, comics sales were at their top in the beginning of the 90's, and then, there has been a general decrease, which was experienced by all the publishers. But as we can see in the link, Image was again a top seller at the end of the decade. That's in the beginning of the 2000's that comics readers became suddendly conservatives, and decided to stop buying any books that wasn't Marvel or DC. And i really hope that this era is over... Comics cost way too much money now. 3 or 4 bucks for 10-15 minutes of entertainment doesn't stretch very far. I budget about 120 bucks a month for comics and I feel like I am barely scratching the surface of what I want to read and I pre-order all my titles from DCBS so that's with a 40% discount on most of my books...I understand people being conservative but I also think that people need to branch away from Marvel and DC and see what else is offered. There's something for everyone out there. Personally, most of my favorite books tend to come from Wildstorm and Top Cow but that doesn't mean that there aren't Marvel, DC, IDW, Dark Horse, etc. titles that I enjoy. |
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Dec 1 2009, 11:34 PM
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![]() One of the Heard ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 9-February 09 Member No.: 42,768 |
All comicbook sale are down from the 90's. I heard Marvel sale where so bad that Disney actually bought Marvel. Don't be fooled by sales numbers from Marvel. While sales have shrunk their profit margins have stayed high on the titles they put out. Even if New Avengers sells 90k copies @ 3.99 a pop they are still making coin. |
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Dec 2 2009, 12:57 AM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 980 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 29,302 |
Agree with PFan we she didn't have a man for how long before Gleason came around? And she wasn't any better or worse off. The only thing Gleason does is basically keep her warm at night but guess wat a pillow and blanket can do a similar effect. I don't think she should be with anyone if she breaks up with/ something happens to Gleason. Sara's an independent woman who doesn't need a man to complete her. While I agree Sara is an independent woman and doesn't need anyone, she could sure as hell use the help. I mean, she has hope. Being a single mother is tough enough, being a single mother as a pole officer is even worse. Plus Sara has the Witchblade and Hope is something more then Human. Plus humans aren't meant to live alone. We're designed to want a family, it's encoded in our DNA. Plus who says Sara can't be kicking ass while having a boyfriend or maybe even a husband? Starfire still kicked ass when she married Robin (or was he the blue thing then?). Wonder Woman kicked ass when she had her boyfriend. Why is it that only Superman and Batman can have a love interest and still be worthy to fight the good fight? -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 2 2009, 10:34 AM
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One of the Heard ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 24-April 09 From: Somewhere on Earth... Member No.: 44,026 |
Comics cost way too much money now. 3 or 4 bucks for 10-15 minutes of entertainment doesn't stretch very far. I budget about 120 bucks a month for comics and I feel like I am barely scratching the surface of what I want to read and I pre-order all my titles from DCBS so that's with a 40% discount on most of my books...I understand people being conservative but I also think that people need to branch away from Marvel and DC and see what else is offered. There's something for everyone out there. Personally, most of my favorite books tend to come from Wildstorm and Top Cow but that doesn't mean that there aren't Marvel, DC, IDW, Dark Horse, etc. titles that I enjoy. I used to be one of those conservative readers. Nowadays, even though most titles I read are still Marvel books, I read a lot more Indie books than I used to. In other news, looks to me like Gleason is well on his way to winning this poll. -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 2 2009, 12:30 PM
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![]() Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 12-July 08 Member No.: 34,875 |
While I agree Sara is an independent woman and doesn't need anyone, she could sure as hell use the help. I mean, she has hope. Being a single mother is tough enough, being a single mother as a pole officer is even worse. Plus Sara has the Witchblade and Hope is something more then Human. Plus humans aren't meant to live alone. We're designed to want a family, it's encoded in our DNA. Plus who says Sara can't be kicking ass while having a boyfriend or maybe even a husband? Starfire still kicked ass when she married Robin (or was he the blue thing then?). Wonder Woman kicked ass when she had her boyfriend. Why is it that only Superman and Batman can have a love interest and still be worthy to fight the good fight? I 100 percent agree with everything you say but... I think you misunderstood me. I didn't mean she doesn't need someone to love. I meant I don't think Gleason is the guy that she really cares for enough and that his main purpose is just to do, as you said, help her out. That should not be what a relationship should be built upon. I think I know why I'm so avidly against them being together. If you ever watched Buffy you'll know about a character named Riley Finn, who was like Gleason in a lot of ways, he was nice, sweet, down to earth, boy next door type but Buffy could never truely give herself to him because they were just to different. I never agreed with their relationship either. I think at the end of the day she needs someone who isn't necessarily like her but maybe someone who just can take the supernatural aspects of her life more in stride than Gleason appears to. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 2 2009, 05:21 PM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,626 Joined: 2-June 04 Member No.: 21,130 |
I think I know why I'm so avidly against them being together. If you ever watched Buffy you'll know about a character named Riley Finn, who was like Gleason in a lot of ways, he was nice, sweet, down to earth, boy next door type but Buffy could never truely give herself to him because they were just to different. I never agreed with their relationship either. I think at the end of the day she needs someone who isn't necessarily like her but maybe someone who just can take the supernatural aspects of her life more in stride than Gleason appears to. Yeah, i totally agree that the two relationships are very similar. That's an excellent point of comparison. However, as much I hated Riley, as much I don't have anything against Gleason. IMO, Riley really had the Captain America style, and as a scifi soldier, he always appeared to me as an anomaly in the Buffyverse. And like you, i never agreed with their relationship, cause i didn't find logical for Buffy to have feelings for a guy like that. Gleason isn't Captain America, it's just an ordinary guy. He doesn't see all black and white like Riley did, he deals with the reality, like all the Witchblade characters. I agree that he's not the more charismatic or fascinating guy (see Jackie/Ian), but i find him rather sympathetic and human, thanks to Ron's dialogues and characterization. I don't see why Sara couldn't be with a guy like that. Anyway, i'm also feeling like you that sara is not in love with him, and that she is unconsciously trying to love him only because he's a perfect support for her and for Hope. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 2 2009, 07:39 PM
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![]() Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 12-July 08 Member No.: 34,875 |
Anyway, i'm also feeling like you that sara is not in love with him, and that she is unconsciously trying to love him only because he's a perfect support for her and for Hope. Totally agree. And there isn't anything wrong with that really she just needs to remember that she doesn't have to settle for someone who she doesn't truly love. That's not to say that love can't grow either. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 3 2009, 01:50 AM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 980 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 29,302 |
I think at the end of the day she needs someone who isn't necessarily like her but maybe someone who just can take the supernatural aspects of her life more in stride than Gleason appears to. What comic were you reading? So far Gleason has fought of Hunter Killers, Angelus Warriors, the Darkness and hell even faces bad Sara. Gleason not only takes the supernatural parts of her life in stride, he goes in the thick of it and fights with her, or watches the baby (hope needs to be watched...). -------------------- ![]() |
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Dec 4 2009, 09:39 PM
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Groovy Moo Moo ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 21-November 04 Member No.: 22,003 |
I think Sarah should be with whoever she falls in love with. Or not, if she doesn't.
Come on, I don't go telling you who you should or shouldn't be with. Leave her alone. She's nice enough to let us watch her really interesting neat-O life. Don't be meddling in it now too. Tracy -------------------- "Anarchy is Order: Government is Civil War."
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